I need your wisdom, Oppo.

"Wheelerguy" (wheelerguy) 03/14/2019 at 06:36 • Filed to: Comments, Geopolitics, FoxtrotAlpha

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This is the comment. Below is how I was about to respond before seeking counsel.

Even now I still find his comment to be utterly insulting and callous, but how exactly do I answer without him being able to really poke holes into my counter?

Ninja for your time.

random001 > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 06:40

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You can’t win.

Captain of the Enterprise > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 06:41

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It’s probably a troll.  I’d just pass on the comment because that’s what they want and enjoy. They’re bad people or sick individuals. 

pip bip - choose Corrour > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 06:45

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if it were me i’d delete this bit

just my 2c though, feel free to ignore it if you wish

Wheelerguy > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/14/2019 at 06:46

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See, that was my knee-jerk reaction speaking. How dare he? Guy probably even lives in a proportionately better place than I do.

But then I realized that any argument I put forth before or after I saw that line would be invalidated. So I went here.

NKato > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 06:47

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Troll. I remember my history when the Japanese Empire had the same designs on the entire SEA region. It wasn’t until we got involved that they lost the war.

Same shit would happen if China started an incursion against any allies we have a defense treaty with.

Philippines, South Korea, Taiwan. The point of those treaties were to prevent a potential threat from gaining a foothold against nations further afield.

This nonsense is why I dislike the internet era. People are no longer intelligent enough to have a meaningful conversation unless they want it. And they rarely do. 

RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 06:47

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Wrestle pigs , get covered with mud.

Wheelerguy > random001 03/14/2019 at 06:49

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I had an angle regarding strategic positioning (he mentioned resources and I was about to say: “Uh, we’re effectively gating off the Pacific and if PHI falls to CHN, they’re free to move in—if that ain’t a resource or a key thing to consider then you don’t get geopolitics”) , but had to stop because (1) this requires research which will take time away from my actual project and (2) he won’t give a shit.

Wheelerguy > NKato 03/14/2019 at 06:52

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Related: I wish we actually aggressively enforced that arbitration ruling, even if the thought of that thing being inert in the greater landscape of this kerfuffle is always crossing my mind. But if we did, what would realistically happen?

Wheelerguy > Captain of the Enterprise 03/14/2019 at 06:52

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Thank you, Captain.

Wheelerguy > RiceRocketeer Extraordinaire 03/14/2019 at 06:55

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Yeah, he seems fine too. Too fine.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 06:56

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Troll feeding is bad for your health. So just don’t do it...

Besides. China couldn’t ‘ take’ the Phi lipp ines even if it wanted to. The Philippines government hasn’t even managed to do it!!

E92M3 > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 06:59

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You’d be wasting your time replying to this person. Nothing you say is going to change their opinion.

Sidenote: T hey really should of considered their neighbors before kic king a llies out. This feels like an “I told you so” moment. Maybe Japan will help them.

jimz > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 07:03

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he’s a troll, don’t engage. 

Wheelerguy > E92M3 03/14/2019 at 07:05

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I mean it’s not like we’ve totally split up with the US, or at least this shit is a recent development. Other than the bases (a topic for another time) we’re still tight and hooked, up to the point when the government decided to grovel at Xi’s feet.

Ideally, we go this on our own. Frankly, I’d still rather have the US, even if there’s a non-insignificant voice from others saying: “The US is bad for us”. At least the US can find a conscience.

Wheelerguy > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 03/14/2019 at 07:08

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Maybe I should go to r/NeutralPolitics to get an actual “opinion”. I’ve been there. They seem well-versed.

(lul as if)

(but maybe not?)

Wheelerguy > jimz 03/14/2019 at 07:09

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I have not engaged.

WRXforScience > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 07:16

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The US did con the Philippine s into kicking out the Spanish only to turn around and seize control for themselves only to give the country up to the Japanese leaving the locals to fight a guerrilla campaign with little help. The one just turn was the US granting the Phi lippines independence after the war (with all the new islands they’d captured and the obsolescence of coal and thereby the necessity of coal stops the islands had little left to offer and naked imperialism had fallen into ill-regard after the brazen efforts of the Imperial Japanese ), but even that is of little solace if righteous recompense for decades of US and centuries of Spanish imperial rule were left in default.

>> Shit’s complicated and the simple don’t care to become nuanced.<<

It’s as if ‘winning’ WWII didn’t make everything the US did before and after the right thing and as if not all conflicts are as well delineated between the ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’. Hell, with the wrong leaders who’s to say that in the future any particular contemporary country won’t be looked at as poorly as the Axis powers. Just as we need to remember the humanity of the victims we need to remember that the perpetrators were human too, lest we forget the horrible truths of the atrocities of the past.

Decency and righteousness are a precipitously thin knife’s edge with intolerable cruelty and malevolence on one side and unimaginable suffering and despair on the other. The slightest nudge one way or the other could send the whole of humanity tumbling and none of us know for certain on which side we’d fall. All we can do is grab those around us with both hands and hold fast against the blowhards trying to sway us. Be the calming, reassuring, quiet hand not the panicked, inciting, unsteadying noise.

>> Don’t feed the trolls.<<      

random001 > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 07:17

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Best thing to do is use that dismiss feature.  It’s like a big old “talk to the hand” moment to a troll.  Boom.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 07:33

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Or you could play baseball in a minefield!

Mercedes Streeter > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 08:50

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I engage trolls all the time! You won't win, but sometimes a bystander learns something new and sometimes it's a way to waste time when you're bored.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 08:51

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You find a gun, and you put small but significant holes in the racist troll instead.

Captain of the Enterprise > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 08:57

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Your welcome!

Wheelerguy > Mercedes Streeter 03/14/2019 at 08:57

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Like, at times I might, if I can keep it between the two of us, and the topic was either car-related or just piss takes, but this requires research to rebut and even then the response wouldn’t fucking care.

Wheelerguy > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 03/14/2019 at 08:59

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But where can I find th e sex pistols that will do the job?

facw > Wheelerguy 03/14/2019 at 10:34

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Dismiss. Guy’s a troll (and a pretty hateful one at that), you aren’t going to convince him that he’s wrong. Just toss his self-centered rant, and hope someday he discovers empathy.